18th July 2007

Bank Penalties for Paper Checks

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Geez sometimes I think I should just start a personal finance blog. Or bring up more pf entries. My rantings on USBank get the best traffic on the site.

When it comes to paying my bills, I’m kind of a luddite. I think I’ve mentioned this before. I don’t want automatic bill pay, I don’t want electronic bill pay, I just want to feel the check in my hand as I write it and send it out. It’s the same reason I used to keep track of my business accounts in a ledger book; I like the physicality of the process. It makes it seem more real to me. Besides; what if something went horribly wrong.

I’ve had so many problems with USBank and overdrafts that I signed up for email alerts; if our account goes below $50, I get an email, and if our account goes negative, I get an email. So it really surprised me when I got an email yesterday that our account had been overdrawn the day before. So, yeah, that’s another hundred bucks in overdraft charges. Completely avoidable if I had gotten the email the day it had happened (I had the money sitting in the savings account). I called USBank and bitched them out. They transferred me to the online services department who told me that this was “working as intended.”

Ok, I’m not arguing that it’s the bank’s responsibility to tell me when I’m overdrawn, but when they tell me that they’ll alert me when I am, then I expect them to tell me, ahem, when I am. I’m not blaming the bank for the fact that I was overdrawn. I take responsibility for that- but their system is supposed to let me know if something went awry.

They only send out emails three times a day, and paper checks go through all in the middle of the night sometime. Electronic tranfers are handled immediately, but paper is processed at the end of the day, which happens to eb about six hours before they send out emails.

So yeah, one paper check goes through, bam, you’re overdrawn, five electronic transfers get handled immediately, and suddenly you’re $200 overdrawn, and wake up to the musical ka-ching of US Bank’s registers.

This is from their FAQ regarding account alerts:

You will receive an alert when a transaction posts to your account that causes your available balance to become negative. Subsequent account activity may make your end-of-day available balance positive and prevent an overdraft condition.

So on 7/16, I had activity and could have made a deposit. However, I wasn’t alerted to this until 7/17, which meant that I got banged for the “overdraft condition.”

Are there any banks that treat their customers fairly? Jeez.

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  1. 1 On July 19th, 2007, Rachel said:

    I have Washington Mutual do the same thing (email alerts) but I have a higher threshold. :) My problem is that the email apparently goes out between 1 a.m. and 1:45 a.m., and sometimes the email doesn’t show up until HOURS later - not sure if it is a server issue or what.

  2. 2 On July 23rd, 2007, BlueNiner said:

    Have you considered a credit union? Oregonians and First Tech come to mind. They are local to you and have all the electrinic access whizbangs and more that US Bank has. I am sure they have the same overdraft charges and what not, but they are owned by their depositors so they tend to be slightly more responsive to thier “customers”. Banks are a business with the only purpose of making money. This is true american capitolism and you can see from thier OD/notification process design sometimes that may not be what is best for thier customers…

    OK, I don’t know if Credit Unions are actually better than banks or not, but I think they are and I like the fact that CU’s are not beholden to stock holders and wall street market forces they way banks are. I can say that I personally avoid ‘banks’ in favor of credit unions, if for no other reason than the impules behind thier creation.

  3. 3 On July 26th, 2007, rustifer said:

    Actually, that’s my understanding too; banged into my head by my father and by my personal finance class in high school, 20 years ago. Credit Unions are owned by the members, so they’re interested in helping you. Banks, on the other hand, are owned by fat cat wealthy bankers. And the wealthy don’t get wealthy by helping you.

    The straw that broke the camel’s back, for me, was today; I had ten dollars in my business account at the -bank- and deposited at $1775 check. I went to Car Toys and bought two cell phones, and they ran my debit card for $160. Since the full $1775 wasn’t ready and only $100 was actually available, this brought my available balance to -50. So I got a overdraft fee there; I understand ( don’t _appreciate_ but understand ). Apparently, because the debit card is guaranteed, the money g That night, a check to someone else showed up and it was for more than $160, and for some reason it was processed before the funds were un-held, so I got a second overdraft fee there.

  4. 4 On September 25th, 2007, Rob said:

    I had a hat-in-hand experience with my bank after discovering about $350 in overdraft fees on my account on day. I drove to the local branch and basically threw myself on the mercy of the court, saying that I understood a fee was appropriate for an overdraft but that fees of that magnitude were really burdensome. Humble pie, even when served fresh, is never tasty. But George the kindly banker , a deacon in his local church, was a decent man, removing the bulk of the fees while warning me he would not be able to do so again. After a short lecture on financial responsibility, he signed me up for a credit card and connected it to my checking account so that any overdrafts would be drawn from the card. Typically there is no fee for these transfers, although I believe I’ve seen a few small charges when there are a significant number of them in a short period. I have to be disciplined and pay off the card as soon as I deposit more money in the account, and I am learning to manage our cash flow better, but that hassaved us a lot of money so I thought I’d pass the story on.

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